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Post by Damaris on Nov 16, 2004 0:39:37 GMT
The worst enemy does not live inside my head. He lives outside. Unfortuantely, you haven't felt what can happen in the "real" world. And I don't expect pity. Hell, I don't WANT pity. You could never understand. And I don't expect you to. Endured famine? Maybe not in that sense, but I did starve myself just to prove that I had control over one aspect in my life. Live with an insane man, knowing that one screw up could make him kill you. My world is a lot larger than you could ever dream of. The world may have no allegiance, but the people on the world shape it. And, in the silence, if you listen closely, you can hear the silence. You can hear the whispers. You can hear the earth crying. But you won't understand.
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Post by ShadowRune on Nov 16, 2004 0:42:53 GMT
*falls over howling with laughter* how many times have I heard those words? understand?! far more people than you could ever GUESS understand. but, oh right, sorry *grins mockingly* YOUR plight must ALWAYS come first.
*sighs* it doesn't matter what you control, it matters what you do to help OTHERS with whatever control you gain that actually matters. Girl. no, CHILD. you have a lot to learn. "the world" nothing. circumstance? you dare to blame the world and circumstance?! you prove what a fool you are.
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Post by Damaris on Nov 16, 2004 0:51:14 GMT
Fool? *Shrugs* I admit to being ignorant about the world. There are many things I will never know, never wish to know. And I admit to being a child. For I have enough sense to know that I would rather stay a little carefree than shoulder the burden of an adult. But, for a young woman, I have done my part in helping others. What have you done? I don't have much money anymore, but I still use what I have to help others. Every day, I give what little money I have to one of my friends, whose parents seem to think she isn't important enought to spend money on. So, every day, I give her my lunch money, because I know that one day I might be in her place. Turnabout is fair play. When did I use the word circumstance? I don't rely on circumstance. I rely on fate. I know that things get better before they get worse, which is why I choose to fight out my battle. My plight is not always right. I do realize how much worse off I could be. For example, I know that I could be freezing right now, instead of sitting in a heated room, in a comfy chair, typing on the internet. It's all a matter of how you count your blessings. *Shrugs* Sticks and stones. Remeber the old rhyme? Well, it's true.
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Post by ShadowRune on Nov 16, 2004 1:00:04 GMT
*blinks* aaaand you've said exactly jack-all. Do you recall me ever saying that I DON'T help those who need it? I'm not heartless and callous little girl. I laugh and joke because I wish to be a child. This tendency is what you and your sister called "immature". This is here not joking, please note the difference between in and out of context. Fate? that is circumstance. You place the blame of your pain or whatever at the feet around you. Anywhere but your own doorstep. You can't realize it but you know? all it takes is a mindset to give you joy. And I've offered you no insult but the truth. Sticks and stones lie in graves, in the forest, but not here. everyone's blessed, you just need to know where to look. *raises a brow*
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Post by Kitsun on Nov 16, 2004 1:09:48 GMT
I've had enough of your so called ideals, your mocking, and your so-called maturity. One of the things that attracted me, and brought me to this board was the level of intellegence, maturity, and writing skills. I see on two of those levels I was sadly mistaken. I see integrity shattered, picking on a poor young man who is no longer here to defend himself. Talk to him, meet him in person. Those comments cut him so deep, the bright young man who can't walk. I'm ashamed of you, all of you. You make me weep for the future of this world, those who preach the goodness of your beliefs, yet attack those who cannot defend. And so I leave, with just these paltry words, hoping you will think on them, and realize just what you say. You have forgotten the face of your father.
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Post by Damaris on Nov 16, 2004 1:11:56 GMT
No. I enjoy being a child, but I also savor those moments where I am allowed to act intelligent. One of my favorite sayings is "Carpe diem", so I intend to follow that to my grave. Oh? You call it my fault that I have a screwed up family? I'll have to mention that one to my psychotherapist. I'm sure she'll enjoy that. Now, I'm not saying that there weren't things that were my fault. But I don't think that anyone has control over their life. But I think that the things that happen in our life shape us to a larger goal, something that humanity has to work together to achieve. Something greater and more powerful than what any mere human can imagine on his or her own. Oh, and since I forgot to ask, most of you claim to be Christian, correct?
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Post by SuibuOgami on Nov 16, 2004 1:18:22 GMT
What? Okay, now I'm getting mad. Damaris, who the Hell do you think you are? I DID live with an insae man that told me every day I was a fucking moron and that if I didn't do exactly as he said then he would kill me. Hell he even tried once! He threw me down the fucking stairs! And do you know what he said to me when I came to? He yelled at me about not going so fast up the stairs, as if I was the one to blame! AND I couldn't go to my mother for help because she kne what was going on! She even pulled me aside and told me not to tell anyone! Ya know what that meant? That meant not only did I have to go up against an insane man (who also was a blackbelt in karate) AND my mother. MY OWN MOTHER. Hell when she found me at the bottom of the stairs, she wouldn't take me to the hospital even though my leg was gushing blood! 'Cause she knew they would ask questions about what had happened andit wouldn't do any good for her reputation. Man oh man I AM loved! And yet I'm not here pouring my heart out to the world saying how bad I got it. You know why? NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR IT. NO ONE. We all got our own problems to deal with. That's all these people have been saying to you all along. Well here's something new; GET OVER IT. Move on with your life. You think you got somethin' worse? Let's here it.
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Post by The_Black_and_Blue_Brigand on Nov 16, 2004 1:22:58 GMT
Unfortunately, Sam is right. All of you have lowered your standards of existence by ganging up on Sam, and then attacking her sister for trying to help her. I'm ashamed of you.I don't particuarlly care about what's said about me; I've heard it all before. But I will *not* tolerate the way you are treating my friends. It's pithy, mean-spirited, and unacceptable to treat someone this way, even if you might not like them. I preferred to stay out of this mud-slinging contest, but now I've got to admit... you claim to be christian...I see no christian good morals and behavior in mocking Rimmer especially when he isn't here to defend himself. It's small-minded and unenlightened. You people say you're mature. Bah! My dog is more mature than the lot of you sad sacks. For shame.
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Post by Ravyn on Nov 16, 2004 1:29:57 GMT
woah, guys...
Maybe it's time to end this? Everyone goes there seperate ways? I think the topic got a little...harsh?
Everyone has a story to tell and has the right to without being insulted, calling them 'sob stories' is rude... some people have been 'sheltered' others have not, but a friendly forum with both sides mixed in may not be the right place to say either side.
All this over a sharpie thing? It went from funny to mean pretty quick and, well, I just thing maybe everyone should just drop it. If possible... I mean... 'cause... somepeople don't like fighting.
And hey, I'm Pagan, why is it cristians are allways the ones who are supposed to be so noble? Everyone has a mean side.
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Post by Damaris on Nov 16, 2004 1:33:57 GMT
Laura, I didn't ask for anyone to believe me. I just thought that people would understand me better if they knew what I went through. But I went through much of the same thing, Laura. I know how you feel. Which is why I refuse to ries to the bait. I know how good a rant can feel, so I will take no offense. Some things truly need to be said. Dennelle, thank you. At least you know what is truly going on. If this is the way Christians claim to be, I wish to have no association with them. However, I have met a family of true Christians, and I am reassured that this is NOT the way they act. I will not cry forgiveness for things I have said or done. As harsh as it may seem, I feel that it is better to say things rather than bottle them up inside. Farewell, old friends. I trust that after my sisters and I take leave of this lovely site, that there will be no slander on our names. Know that what I have said, has come from my heart. I refuse to say meaningless words, for anyone can see that they would be empty. Farewell, once again. Rob, sorry we're deserting you like this. I know that we were some of your first members, but this is unacceptable. I know that we have freedom of speach, so I will refer others to this site, although with a warning about the close-mindedness of its members. I do hope that this site continues to prosper.
I wash my hands of thee.
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Post by Ebony on Nov 16, 2004 2:19:57 GMT
... I mean no offence in saying any of this, to anyone. But unlike what most people seem to think about Christians, we are not perfect. Coming from experience here. You claim to know 'true christians' I doubt that... The only true Christian was Jesus, we're simply imitations...
I'm being shunned by two families for being morbid, loud, and just a little obsessed with vampires... I'm Christian. Just because everyone has this picture of Christians walking around with little halos on their heads giving out money by the handfuls and helping all the poor buggers on the street doesn't mean that Christians are actually that. That's common sense. I don't think that Christians should be judged anymore then anyone else. Just because we're Christians does not mean that we should be judged above everyone else in society. Some religions attempt to tell people that they are 'holier the thou art'. But that's bollocks.
If we should start judging everyone by those standards, no one would be that. If you want to see perfect Christians, go back to the bible. We are people, Christians or Pagans or Anthiests, it doesn't matter, we all are flawed. In some ways, Christians try harder, in some ways, that's just a classification.
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Post by rainlightlyn on Nov 16, 2004 4:18:44 GMT
I would just like to say thank you to Raven for pointing out the truth.
And if you want to leave the site because you want to pick fights over nit-picky things, then go ahead. It's realy no skin off our back if you do.
As a player, I would never let one or more people's attitudes towards me drive me away from a game I love.
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Post by SuibuOgami on Nov 16, 2004 6:27:50 GMT
Yes, thank you Raven. After I posted the rant I realized I'd flown off the handle. What I really wanted to do after that is come back apoligize to everyone, say things like "What happens in this thread stays in this thread" and do some damage control. But, being grounded and having mom walk in the door at the most inopportune moment is not exactly helping in that aspect. So I lay in bed tossing and turning all night until finally at two a.m. I decided to say screw it and take the punishment. So what does everyone say huh? Let's let bigons be bigones, accept everyone for who they are and their misfortunes in life and get on with rping 'cause, that's what everyone's here for right? After all christmas IS just around the corner. Raven couldn't have said it any better.
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Post by Ravyn on Nov 16, 2004 20:47:53 GMT
*smiles shyly* Yule for me, is coming. I don't put perfect images on christians. Some christians are bad, some are good, just like Vampirists (my religion). They're just people, why judge? Suibu you have nothing to appologize for... sometimes when you've been through bad events, especially for a long time, they come out when you don't mean them too. A lot of abuse victoms either get angrey and deffensive or they become to submissive... the lack of different emotions is frightening and I think ANYONE who is able to fight against the steriotypes of abuse victoms is a strong person. Problem is, hurt stays longer then happiness and will eventually break free, so don't worry about it, you're still strong. I think this forum just hit a nitch with a lot of people and best be ignored, so, yes, I agree.
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Post by ShadowRune on Nov 16, 2004 22:11:30 GMT
Hm. You know what I find ironic? I regarded this entire debacle as a competetive debate. I find it rather amusing that so many people decided to take it so damn personally. Christian? yes, you people need help. Being Christian is about TRYING to do the right thing. Being what was referred to as a "True Christian" is making sure that no one on the outside can see what you hide away inside. Here are some fundamental truths I've delved from my religion that I think apply to everyone's life. Whether you accept it or not, and I don't give a damn how many people get offended or whatnot, "where there is a will, there is a way". This doesn't mean that nothing bad will ever happen, it means that the power to end the evils of the world lie in the hands of the individual, same goes for individual problems. Every person is put to test and trial, and no one's trials exceed their capacity or will to defy or indure these. As for this topic, the only people I see getting really harsh are actually the ones that took off in a huff. You can give it, but you can't take? don't give it unless you can take it and hold on like the tenacious bastards we so are. I offer no apology to anyone. I hope no one else apologizes here. I take no affront at untruths spat out in anger. Anger does not give one any time to think, therefore I know a lot of what was said here is for the most part, is merely the product of wrath needing an outlet. As mod of this board I will lock this thread after I have given everyone here a chance to speak one last time. I pray your last posts will be ones of reconciliation.
...damn, it's sad when I HAVE to be mature...YOU FREAKS!
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